Hello all,

I was listening to this again last night...

I couldn't help but notice little similarities this has to the music of J&H. There's a section, I think it's in The Prayer (for the life of me I can't remember) which replicates the opening notes of J&H (the Prologue).

Also, "Falcon in the Dive" seems like it will burst into "The Way Back" at any second

Anyone else notice this? or others?

Ahh heck yes.

*is in total agreement*

Phew: thought it was just me :blink:

I also think "You are my Home" could be a song for Jekyll and Lisa/Emma

I read something once, where Nan was listening to tapes of music Frank had written for possible use in the show. The story was something like she found one she thought would be good for Chauvelin's song, sent it to him, and that he said he'd used it in Jekyll & Hyde but he would write something like it, which became "Falcon in the Dive." I don't think we've ever been told what the J&H song was, but I always suspected it was "The Way Back."

I can see that happening...

Just listened over it... the chorus in "Falcon in the Dive" is similar, musically, as "... the winds have battered, what fate has shattered, I'll retrieve what mattered..." those lines

See what I mean?

I've never heard "Civil War" or most of "Dracula" but I've been told there's a lot of recycling in there.

R.L.

I've noticed that too. And the beginning of "Belive" in Pimpernel sounds like the Prolouge from J&H.

Also, in Madame Guillotine, the "She will tingle your spine, as she captures your heart and your head!" The "head" part sounds exactly like one of the "one flamin' row!" parts from Murder, Murder song. In MG, I expect them all to start singing, "Murder, murder" after they sing "hea-EAD!!" It's so weird.

There's a particular theme that's come around a few times... it's from the beginning of 'The Heart is Slow to Learn' from Dracula, and another song from Pimpernel, I think - what is it, then? - 'Where's the Girl', I think.

"The Heart is Slow to Learn"?

Any relation to the song from "Phantom of the Opera 2" ?

I always thought "Once Upon a Dream" sounded like it could've been sung by Marguerite to Percy. You know, "Could we begin again..." and lines like that. Come to think of it, "Take Me As I Am" would work well, too.

Well, it's the same lyricist (Don Black.) But the song itself is entirely different.
The beginning sounds almost identical to the opening of "Where's the Girl," though. And I just noticed that Van Helsing's song, "Nosferatu," sounds veeerrrryyy similar to "You Work - And Nothing More" from J&H. Weird...

Is it also the mad bit in Transformation as Jekyll screams "Suddenly - agony.. etc."?

I heard that was recycled (and it's the same motif that appears in His / Your Work)

Yep. I think having that motif recur in "His/Your Work..." is really fitting, somehow. :)

Okay, I just got the Original Broadway Cast recording today in the mail!!! I got it playing now. As I listen to it, im falling in love with it! And Terrence! haha Now I cannot wait for my other cd to come in! Give me about 3 weeks and ill have the entire or most of the show memorized. But, oh my, it is awesome! And I cant stop laughing....just no comment on some of the songs! lol

LOL! Why no comment on some of the songs?

I take it a few of you did not have the chance to see SP, especially the OBC.
(sorry, I'll try not to gloat ::GLOAT GLOAT::). Sorry again...

Seriously, it was the most fun of all Frank's shows, honestly... from an audience and a cast perspective.

First and always in the spotlight was that daffy Douglas Sills. He WAS Percy! Ask anyone who's seen him. Doug would torture Terry Mann nightly with his well placed lines and persistant humor....and Terry acted out as the most disgusted, intolerant Chauvelin ever! It was royal!

Sills noteriously pulled ad-libs in the show in certain spots. If audience members were late returning to their seats after intermission, Doug stopped the show with lines like " I told them to get more seats in the john" or " Did you have to go back for that extra candy bar?" . He would open the 2nd act by playfully singing " Row, Row Row your boat" rather than " They seek him here". And the audience ate it up!

Once at the curtain call, Doug surprised Terry by bending him in two and laid a big wet one on him instead of Margaurete.

Terry really nailed the role quite well. His booming baritone was a pleasure to listen to, as was William Michals, who was equally if not better vocally & acting.

I was fortunate to know a gal who was very friendly with both Doug and Terry and I can tell you those were some crazy times at SP.

But Terry got even! Later, when Terry was doing another show ( I think in NC) Doug surprised him and no one knew him and wouldn't let him back to see him. Doug persuaded a young woman with the theater to get a message to Terry. Terry acted so irrated and pretended that he loathed him. Well, 2 days later it was all over the internet. "Terry Mann & Doug Sills had it out in NC". SINK ME! really funny stuff.

Great show, amazing songs, brilliant cast . " You Are My Home" sung by the wonderful Giles Chaison (?) with the enitire chours in the prison cellers...priceless.
"Into the Fire" on a huge masted ship. "Creation of Man" was as foppy as they come (even Doug broke up in that one).


OK.... Sorry to rant...But when J&H and S&P both played on Bd'w it was the best of times! Hanging out with both casts between shows, slurping ice cream walking the streets. Wildhorn works with some of the most talented, funny and "real" people in the industry.

Ah,

Frank has still got a lot more in him. In ten years time, he'll achieve another triple-success. If done right, "Waiting for the Moon" will be a huge success for him

haha, just not comment on some songs....*dies laughing* The Creation of Man.....no way...just too funny.

"First and always in the spotlight was that daffy Douglas Sills. He WAS Percy! Ask anyone who's seen him. Doug would torture Terry Mann nightly with his well placed lines and persistant humor....and Terry acted out as the most disgusted, intolerant Chauvelan ever! It was royal!"

^No!! no one tortures Terry! Not the man who was Javert in the OBC of Les Mis and Chauvelan in Scarlet Pimpernel....no! haha But I do love Terry because no matter what part he has...well police type, he is always on top of things.

Now for my comments on the show so far....with only reading the story outline....As a person who completly loves the French Revolution, I have no idea why Chauvelan would let Armand and Marguerite go! *rolls eyes* Just my own personal opinion. And all Percy does is outwhit everyone...The Prince of Whales...Chauvelan...everyone!

Chauvelan is my favorite of course, with "Falcon in the Dive" *dies* just amazing.

I was listening to the CD of "Dracula" and I thought one of the sings had some notes that were the same from one of the song's from "Jekyll and Hyde", but of course, I can't remember which songs. LOL

I suggest you buy/rent the Scarlet Pimpernel DVD with Jane Seymour. It will give you a better idea of the plot.


I have no idea why Chauvelin would let Armand and Marguerite go! *rolls eyes* Just my own personal opinion.

He and Marg. had a "thing" and he used that info. to blackmail her upon her marriage to Percy. Meantime Armand ends up in prison. When Marg. comes to rescue him she confronts Chauvelan and he puts her in prison with Armand to face execution. But they escape with the help from Percy & the gang.



And all Percy does is outwhit everyone...The Prince of Whales...Chauvelan...everyone!

Percy puts on the best farces and storms, no more like prances, into town and out wits them all. All the while gathering a wild reputation as the mysterious, elusive Scarlet Pimpernel.

Still....even if Percy is the one outwhitting them all...he is still considered a traitor to the Republic. And you know what happened to traitors of the Republic during the Reign of Terror *grinning*

And I do know about Chauvelan and Marg. "thing" they had, but I guess if they escaped, they would lead right to Percy.

But also, im still new, so I dont know every detail....im getting there though!

I will try and get the movie too, but I have such a busy schedule, ill try and find time to get it.

Might I ask which version of the "Dracula" CD you were listening to? Because Frank and Jeremy (Roberts) are having issues at the moment concerning "leaked CDs"

Chauvelin was obsessed with catching the Pimpernel, so he set up the "escape" to that end. Marguerite and Armand thought that Percy and his men set it up, and Armand gave directions to the carriage driver to meet up with them. This led Chauvelin straight to the Pimpernel.

*grinning* So was Javert with Valjean and that is why im instantly in love with Chauvelin!! Though at least he doesnt commit suicide. lol

And im happy, I got "Madame Guillotine" and "Falcon in the Dive" just about memorized.

And I must agree that in "Madame Guillitone" the lines "These are the glorious days!" They are the glorious days during the Reign of Terror! That song is so...true! I love it!