Title: Der Graf von Monte Christo St. Gallen Cast CD
Edward - September 8, 2009 07:09 AM (GMT)
Just found an announcement about the St. Gallen Cast CD at Sound of Music:
http://www.soundofmusic-shop.de/CD_GRAF_VO..._Cast_2009.htmlExpected release date is 2nd October.
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 08:22 AM (GMT)
Oh wow!
Wait...13 tracks. Awww BUM!!!
Edward - September 8, 2009 08:50 AM (GMT)
Well, what do you expect? A complete recording? The songlist contains 23 songs, and 13 of them made it to the cast album, so that's at least more than 50%.
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 08:54 AM (GMT)
What do I expect? The concept album had that amount of songs. You'd think they'd at least record all of the main songs instead of a Swiss version of what we already have in English.
Edward - September 8, 2009 09:18 AM (GMT)
The less the more valueable. There are cast recordings containing less than 10 songs, and if you find a copy you have to pay more than 100 Euro for that.
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 09:21 AM (GMT)
Well, I'm sorry, it just doesn't make sense to me. Note me, not anybody else. I thought if there was going to be a second release, it would contain the whole score.
Edward - September 8, 2009 09:36 AM (GMT)
Well, of course I agree, I would also prefer a complete recording. On the other hand, there are enough Thomas Borchert fans which will pull the CDs off the shelves.
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 09:38 AM (GMT)
True...I just wish we could hear the full score as well :(
Edward - September 8, 2009 09:54 AM (GMT)
I'm afraid that's only possible by visiting the show in St. Gallen. But on the other hand, St. Gallen is really beautiful, it's Unesco World Heritage Site. I would really recommend to go on a journey.
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 10:43 AM (GMT)
There are so many places I want to go, I just hope I get that chance :( At the moment, I really want to travel and see "Wonderland" and the Phantom sequel.
Fantasma da Opera - September 8, 2009 02:00 PM (GMT)
It may have only 13 tracks but it's definitly better than nothing! :D
Something tells me they won't even use the Gallen orchestrations (that are slightly different from the Concept ones) and just re-use the orchestral tracks they used for the Concept. So I can see how for those who don't speak german etc this may not be so appealing. I on the other hand am pretty happy since I normaly tend to like things in german better :P So I'm so going to bankrup myself... :P
Oh by the way...notice that the Prologue is in latin. So it would have no difference from the Concept album, and so I don't think they'll be repeating it. It would be pretty "stupid". SO I think we can hope for at least a new song :D I'm hopping for "To much is never enough" :P
rockfenris2005 - September 8, 2009 05:33 PM (GMT)
I looked at the link in English. I think what this could actually be is the English tracks with German vocals. How interesting. In that case, I hope they record English vocals for the German Dracula. That would be the ultimate Wildhorn recording for me.
Edit: I think this might end up being a similar deal to "The Scarlet Pimpernel" Encore CD, if you know what I mean.
Fantasma da Opera - September 8, 2009 08:35 PM (GMT)
Oh I do hope not...Well ok, I guess it will be exactly the same songs, which is a pitty 'cause there are songs in the show definitly better than "Pretty Lies" or "Ah, women" such as "To much is never enough" and "Truth or Dare".
But well...if they are going to use the orchestral tracks of the Concept I hope they at least update them a little to the true Gallen orchestrations. Example: in St.Gallen, before "I will be there" there's a small intro to the tune of "when the world was mine" where Mercedes sings "Oh Lord, hear my prayer (...) bring him back to me..." and then transforms into "I will be there" That single little change made the song so better...
Anyway, this came out completly out of nowhere, so there's very little info about it. Lets wait and see what happens. On the other hand, this may also explain WHY was the Rudolf DVD postponed ;)
Edward - September 9, 2009 08:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 8 Sep 2009, 10:35 PM) |
| Anyway, this came out completly out of nowhere, so there's very little info about it. Lets wait and see what happens. On the other hand, this may also explain WHY was the Rudolf DVD postponed |
If MG Sound is involved you may be right. But perhaps this is a SoM production, so we really have to wait for further details.
Fantasma da Opera - September 9, 2009 03:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Edward @ 9 Sep 2009, 9:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 8 Sep 2009, 10:35 PM) | | Anyway, this came out completly out of nowhere, so there's very little info about it. Lets wait and see what happens. On the other hand, this may also explain WHY was the Rudolf DVD postponed |
If MG Sound is involved you may be right. But perhaps this is a SoM production, so we really have to wait for further details.
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Nah I bet it's MWB ;) SoM doesn't release Cast Recordings, only backing tracks normaly and just from time to time. And MG Sound/HitSquad is normaly behing all recordings released in Austria so... ;)
Edward - September 9, 2009 03:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 9 Sep 2009, 5:25 PM) |
| SoM doesn't release Cast Recordings, only backing tracks normaly and just from time to time. And MG Sound/HitSquad is normaly behing all recordings released in Austria so... ;) |
Just have a closer look at the German Cast recording of The Scarlet Pimpernel, it's a coproduction of MusicalNet Berlin, Opernhaus Halle and - what do you think? yes indeed - Sound of Music, Essen
Fantasma da Opera - September 9, 2009 05:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Edward @ 9 Sep 2009, 4:40 PM) |
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 9 Sep 2009, 5:25 PM) | | SoM doesn't release Cast Recordings, only backing tracks normaly and just from time to time. And MG Sound/HitSquad is normaly behing all recordings released in Austria so... ;) |
Just have a closer look at the German Cast recording of The Scarlet Pimpernel, it's a coproduction of MusicalNet Berlin, Opernhaus Halle and - what do you think? yes indeed - Sound of Music, Essen
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Oh yeah! You're right!
Though...I still doubt that this will be by SoM. Specially 'cause the Concept is by MWB/HitSquad and so they're the ones with the orchestral tracks.
Also, MWB is a Frank Wildhorn label, so it would make much more sense since he know has his own European producer to release his recordings all through MWB
Edward - September 9, 2009 07:26 PM (GMT)
It was just a guess ... since there's no other announcement of the recording.
Juggler - September 10, 2009 03:57 PM (GMT)
This recording will be another MWB project, yes. I've been checking and don't have other details yet (such as which songs and orchestrations will be included). More as I have it.
Fantasma da Opera - September 25, 2009 09:38 PM (GMT)
Just as I expected, it got postponed...now to October 10th...I think they wanted to avoid a double release (since Rudolf DVD comes out Oct.2nd)?
Edward - September 26, 2009 12:47 PM (GMT)
And still no details which songs and orchestrations will be included
Edward - October 9, 2009 08:38 PM (GMT)
I assume it got further postponed, without any notification. On the Sound of Music website there's still no further information available.
Fantasma da Opera - October 9, 2009 09:46 PM (GMT)
Perhaps. I think we'll need to wait for tomorrow. I find it weird though, that only SoM is pre-selling the CD... :unsure:
Edward - October 10, 2009 03:25 PM (GMT)
Well, nothing happened, what did you expect? On the other I'm not curious enough to give them a phone call if it is available.
Fantasma da Opera - October 10, 2009 04:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Edward @ 10 Oct 2009, 4:25 PM) |
| Well, nothing happened, what did you expect? On the other I'm not curious enough to give them a phone call if it is available. |
I guess we'll have to wait. I expected them to update the website, but then again, they never updates the cover of the Rudolf CD... :rolleyes:
Though...it would be great if you could give them the phonecall to find out :P (I would but I'm not in Germany... :lol: )
Edward - October 10, 2009 05:30 PM (GMT)
Well, actually they're closed. Other shops offer business hours until 10 pm even on Saturdays. I think it would be nice to have business hours until curtain rise of the nearby Colosseum Theatre.
Fantasma da Opera - October 10, 2009 07:30 PM (GMT)
Oh well if they are closed on Saturdays we couldn't expect anything to happen could we? :lol:
Let's wait to see what happens on Monday. I still find weird no other shop mentions the CD...
Edward - October 10, 2009 08:13 PM (GMT)
No, they're not closed on Saturdays, but close at 4 pm. And evening performance in the Colosseum Theatre begins at 8 pm.
To tell the truth, in Germany CDs are regularly released on Fridays. Don't know about release dates in Austria, since MG Sound is an Austrian company.
Fantasma da Opera - October 10, 2009 09:32 PM (GMT)
Oh I see. Hmm I don't know either. But to tell the truth the "release dates" aren't always fullfiled. The first DVDs of Rudolf were released before the date, the Concept CD of Monte Christo was released on a Sunday so...I think it's more a question of "It's released when it's released" <_<
Personaly I start to think this is going to be another "Rebecca Karaoke". SoM announced it, they had it on pre-sales for a long time and then suddenly the CD wasn't going to happen after all. The fact that neither Amazon.de nor musical-shop.de even mention the existence of the possible release just makes my suspicion bigger :blink:
Edward - October 10, 2009 10:23 PM (GMT)
Maybe you're right ... I've just checked the "media news" in the actual "musicals" magazine, the soundtrack of the movie Nine is already listed, but no Monte Christo CD.
Edward - October 12, 2009 03:05 PM (GMT)
it got postponed ... to infinity ...
not really, only to October 25th
Fantasma da Opera - October 12, 2009 03:44 PM (GMT)
Yeah just saw. Again, I start to highly doubt the CD will even be produced. From now on, until I see othersites pre-saling and a official cover, I won't believe the CD will be released... :angry:
Edward - October 12, 2009 07:13 PM (GMT)
On the other hand, who can earn money with a rumor? The CD is on rank two of their selling charts, and if they have enough orders in advance they can perhaps produce the CD.
Fantasma da Opera - October 12, 2009 07:35 PM (GMT)
I dunno if they gain anything with that but the Rebecca karaoke also was on the top of sales for a lot of time (both in 1st and 2nd place, alternating with the Cast Album) and then suddenly it was announced that wasn't happening anymore.
Edward - October 12, 2009 07:47 PM (GMT)
Was the mentioned Rebecca karaoke also exclusively annouced by SoM, or was it announced by VBW? I don't remember that case since I'm not interested in karaoke CDs at all.
Fantasma da Opera - October 12, 2009 08:54 PM (GMT)
Only SoM. It was exactly the same situation that is happening with this CD.
(Oh I love them, specially if they don't have chorus like the Rudolf one. I'm still very sorry they didn't released the Rebecca Sing-Along. But apparently it was expensive to pay to the entire orchestra to record the songs again...)
Edward - October 12, 2009 09:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 12 Oct 2009, 10:54 PM) |
| But apparently it was expensive to pay to the entire orchestra to record the songs again... |
Is it really necessary to record the songs twice to make a Sing-Along? I think you can generate such a record just by omitting the vocals from the master. As far as I know they only have to pay the royalty for the musicians when making a Sing-Along, but this is already expensive enough.
Fantasma da Opera - October 13, 2009 11:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Edward @ 12 Oct 2009, 10:09 PM) |
| QUOTE (Fantasma da Opera @ 12 Oct 2009, 10:54 PM) | | But apparently it was expensive to pay to the entire orchestra to record the songs again... |
Is it really necessary to record the songs twice to make a Sing-Along? I think you can generate such a record just by omitting the vocals from the master. As far as I know they only have to pay the royalty for the musicians when making a Sing-Along, but this is already expensive enough.
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Well you would have to pay an extra to the orchestra for releasing a Sing-Along even if they only played the backtracks once. That's what happened with Rudolf.
However the Rudolf orchestra is very small (and has loads of synths) compared to the Rebecca orchestra that was a huge all instruments orchestra (no synths).
I dunno how did they recorded the Rebecca Cast Album but apparently they would have to re-record the songs (probably they recorded the orchestra at the same time the actors where recording which made the separation different?). I don't know many details, all I know I was told by Michael Kunze.
Fantasma da Opera - October 16, 2009 02:18 PM (GMT)
SoM posted the cover of the St.Gallen Cast CD (which I know assume it's the correct one since the "the real cover will be posted later" was now removed)

I must say...it's just awfull. The Concept recording one had such a great one...this cover looks like amateur work to me. I really hope they change it...even I could come up with something better (specially 'cause I can't even see the reason why they chosed THAT picture when there are thousends of better ones <_< )
Edward - October 16, 2009 03:24 PM (GMT)
But still no details which songs and orchestrations will be included. I'm sure if the cover is already chosen, everthing is fixed. I think our first assumption about that topic will come true.